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The Good Life Unravelled Podcast: Ep. 48 – Rituals, Symbols, and Personal Spiritual Practice with Holland Otik (part 1 of 2)

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In at this time’s podcast episode I chatting with Holland Otik, a maker, chef, trainer, researcher and animistic object fanatic who incorporates magic and ritual into every part they do. She presently owns a small store and studio in Hereford.

This dialog was epic. A lot in order that we ended up speaking for twice so long as we scheduled, and this interview might be cut up into two elements. Our first two parter!

So at this time’s episode is an element one of many two half interview with Holland Otik.

On this episode Holland shares how she obtained to this stage in her life and profession. How a collection of ‘missteps’ obtained her so far, and by doing issues didn’t serve her genuine self helped to grasp what was proper. What began as an identification disaster grew to become an identification, and Holland realised her superpower.

Holland shares what a maker truly is and what they appear to be. She explains what a artistic follow seems like. 

She shares how having disappearing into play and utilizing her creativeness with the objects round her as a baby is linked to the work she does at this time. We discuss how objects imbue which means. The individuals who purchase her work get it. 

Holland talks about masks and the way that’s linked to her curiosity in animism. We go into element about what animism is and what the seems like. 

Our dialog then turns to ritual and what meaning to Holland. We talk about the ability of formality, the way it doesn’t must be repetitive, and the way it may be significant for a person. 

We discuss symbolism and the way even the identical factor can have completely different which means for you at completely different instances in your life.

Holland spends a number of time researching magical practices from all types of cultures. She talks about modern British neo-pagan witchcraft, and the way a number of it hinges itself on outdated practices from way back, however a number of them have been written down within the 1960s by a bunch of nudists.

We speak in regards to the issues that come up by inserting significance and which means on outdated cultural practices. Usually it finally ends up that individuals that wouldn’t in any other case interact with a tradition usually cherry-pick elements of it for themselves. 

We chat in regards to the energy dynamics within the wellness and non secular industries. How usually it removes private energy and locations it within the fingers of any individual else. 

Holland shares the significance of studying about one thing, being a custodian of that information, and both you allow it alone, cross it on, or wreck it and misinform. 

We speak in regards to the difficult dialog of how does the typical individual get curious and study spirituality in a accountable means. No person needs to be doing it incorrect, however we don’t at all times create house for an individual doing it incorrect to be taught from it. 

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Holland shares her ideas on personal beliefs and whether or not we must always share these with others. We chat about whether or not there may be an moral, accountable, and self-aware method to follow spirituality. 

Subscribe to the podcast and tune in subsequent week for the second a part of this interview.


  • Generally while you reject what you’re not searching for, you get what you might be searching for.
  • If you’re free in your actions, you free any individual else. Being visibly genuine permits any individual else to do this too.
  • Perhaps how we label ourselves, if we reframe it, permits us to step into one other a part of ourselves.
  • Symbols spotlight the areas of your self that you just didn’t know have been there earlier than.
  • Creating your individual ritual will be one thing instinctual, or one thing that brings you consolation.
  • Ritual is an influence we’ve that’s underused. Usually we glance to different individuals to assuage us or make it okay. Spending time by yourself private rituals is nice self-care.


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